Re: 2 new mailings
From: Carol Koepp (carolkoeppcomcast.net)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
I will watch it for sure. Having the same values without the theism is what makes us unique when working with folks coming from a theistic base, i.e., Habitat For Humanity and the Downtown Congregations to End Homelessness. They have a hard time figuring us out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Tapp" <tappx001 [at] umn.edu>
To: "Carol Koepp" <carolkoepp [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "FUS Social Action talk" <fussa-talk [at] muusja.org>
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: [sa-talk] 2 new mailings


Both deal with humanists' values and how best to make them visible and
exciting.

Bob

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From: Robert Tapp <tappx001 [at] umn.edu>
Date: July 3, 2009 10:51:57 PM CDT
To: Humanist Institute Discussion List <hidisc [at] humanistinstitute.org>
Subject: We few

Bill Moyers Journal tonight should be a must for humanists. An
earlier post described a course on social ethics that was available
online,  Tonight Miyers quizzed the 3 professors -- Cornel West,
Serene Jones, and Gary Dorrien -- on how their progressive version
of Christianity helped them understand the present economic crisis.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html

Moyers pushed the fact that there were many other versions of
Christianity, and they agreed. In fact they argued that their
version only started around 1880 in the US and certainly was not a
majority version today. That "social gospel" is one of the major
sources of our own modern humanism. Our 1033 Manifesto argued that
the values of that earlier movement could no longer be well served
from a theistic base. Moyers pushed each speaker hard on whether
their theistic assumptions were necessary, AND all agreed that many
who did not share heir beliefs in fact did share their values.

They were also agreed that traditional forms of Christianity were
unable to understand or deal with the crisis. One statement by
Serene Jones (new president of Union Theological Seminary) came very
close to a sermonic definition of modern humanism. Love is the most
important value (some of us are more likely to prefer <compassion>)
and <justice is love with legs>..

Do watch this discussion for a better understanding of progressive
Christianity -- and our relation to it.

Bob



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From: Robert Tapp <tappx001 [at] umn.edu>
Date: July 3, 2009 11:01:37 PM CDT
To: Humanist Institute Discussion List <hidisc [at] humanistinstitute.org>

Subject: Shared values

The Vatican will soon be receiving President Obama, and Benedictine
Sister Joan Chittister wonders whether those same bishops who
recently criticized Notre Dame will persist in their position! More
significantly, she discusses some of the ethical themes of a major
forthcoming encyclical, Veritas in Caritate,

Humanists will want to rad this closely since it comes from the
largest group of Christians. We too urge values that serve <the
common good>. What overlaps exit? Are we more consistent in
promoting those values than people who claim they rest upon
supernaturalism?

http://ncronline.org/news/politics/voice-reason-maelstrom-condemnations

Bob


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